#16 Sebastian Mallaby on the Role of Video Games in AI Development, the Magic of Human Cognition, and Demis Hassabis’ Insatiable Scientific Curiosity

Sebastian Mallaby, author, journalist, and the Paul A. Volcker Senior Fellow for International Economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, joins Nick Dirks to discuss his latest book, The Infinity Machine, a fascinating chronicle of Demis Hassabis and the rise of Google DeepMind.

Also read from Sebastian Mallaby: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/13/opinion/china-ai-america-chipmakers.html

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